1 00:01:47,959 --> 00:01:51,400 Three Swedes were arrested today suspected of running- 2 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:57,400 -one of the world's biggest websites for illegal downloading... 3 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:02,040 Good evening. The US government threatened with trade sanctions- 4 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,560 -unless file sharing sites, like the Pirate Bay, are shut down. 5 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:10,800 Illegal downloading has upset big organizations in Hollywood... 6 00:02:10,959 --> 00:02:16,160 The motion picture studios lost 7 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,080 The White House forced the Swedish government to intervene. 8 00:02:20,239 --> 00:02:24,239 We applaud the Swedish authorities. It was an important site to stop. 9 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,040 The police website was attacked on Friday- 10 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,200 -and last night the government website. 11 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,640 The trial against the founders of the Pirate Bay begins tomorrow. 12 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,280 Today they met the press. 13 00:03:12,879 --> 00:03:17,640 What will happen to the Pirate Bay if you're found guilty? 14 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,280 Nothing. 15 00:03:20,439 --> 00:03:24,360 What are they going to do about it? They've failed shutting it down once. 16 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,680 They're welcome to come and fail again. 17 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,040 It's not the Pirate Bay that's going to court tomorrow. 18 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:38,840 It is about getting us who are connected to the Pirate Bay- 19 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,840 -into a political trial. 20 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,959 The trial tomorrow is not about the law, it's about politics. 21 00:03:49,439 --> 00:03:53,879 Half of all BitTorrent traffic is coordinated by the Pirate Bay. 22 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,080 It's extreme amounts of traffic. 23 00:03:57,239 --> 00:04:00,680 There are 22-25 million users at this very moment. 24 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:05,200 A user is defined as one ongoing upload or download. 25 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,640 Any questions? Please. 26 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,320 Where is Fredrik? 27 00:04:08,479 --> 00:04:10,320 Where is Fredrik? 28 00:04:10,479 --> 00:04:11,760 We don't know. 29 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:16,320 He was supposed to be here but he's probably hungover. 30 00:04:16,479 --> 00:04:19,520 The first question: Where is Fredrik? 31 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,879 I said that Fredrik likes to party. 32 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,800 I didn't want to lie and tell them I knew where he was. 33 00:04:28,959 --> 00:04:32,720 I tried to get hold of Fredrik all day yesterday. 34 00:04:32,879 --> 00:04:39,879 I called him a couple of times and finally he answered. 35 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,040 He says: "Do you know where I am?" 36 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,920 I go: "No." "I'm at Arlanda Airport." 37 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:51,280 "Why is that?" "I'm leaving." 38 00:04:51,439 --> 00:04:53,879 What? 39 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,439 He said that he had bought a ticket- 40 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:04,600 -to Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. What a great name for an escape plan. 41 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:12,239 So his plan was to head home to his girlfriend in Laos. 42 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:18,520 Live with her and not give a shit about anything. 43 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:25,000 Then suddenly he texted me: 44 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,600 "I think it's the Security Service. The plane is broken." 45 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:33,320 "So where are you now?" "On my way back to the hotel." 46 00:05:33,479 --> 00:05:35,720 Phew! 47 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:44,080 The interest for the file-sharing trial in Stockholm is massive. 48 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:52,600 You can't seriously think that you can stop our world- 49 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,000 -our everyday, our reality. 50 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,600 This is so gay. 51 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,640 Monique Wadsted. 52 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:36,720 I also represent the gaming industry. But not music. 53 00:06:36,879 --> 00:06:40,160 We have the biggest damage claim. 54 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:44,920 I represent some of the big film studios in Hollywood. 55 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:51,000 Warner Bros., Columbia, 20th Century Fox and MGM. 56 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,040 We're demanding compensations of $13 million. 57 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,200 It might seem insanely high. 58 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:06,479 That should be seen as an indicator of how big this business is. 59 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,280 Because this is about 5 movies during 6 months. 60 00:07:10,439 --> 00:07:14,920 "The Pink Panther", "Syriana", one "Harry Potter"- 61 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,320 -"Prison Break" and "Walk The Line". 62 00:07:18,479 --> 00:07:21,119 There is no doubt about what they have done. 63 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,879 They have run a commercial business and making a profit. 64 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:29,239 The penalty for this type of activity is prison. 65 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,520 Not fines. 66 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:37,239 Fredrik would like to tell his version before the prosecutor starts. 67 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:42,160 Is that accepted by the prosecutor? You may begin, Fredrik Neij. 68 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:49,280 I want to start by saying that I have a great interest in computers and IT. 69 00:07:49,439 --> 00:07:53,400 And especially for internet and networks. 70 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:59,600 And that I... Well... 71 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:04,160 ...I've lost my train of thought. 72 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:10,200 You forgot what you were saying. You had a long interest in IT. 73 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:16,520 I got involved in the Pirate Bay because of my interest in IT. 74 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:21,800 I think it's great fun to work with technology. 75 00:08:23,439 --> 00:08:26,680 For me, the Pirate Bay is a technical challenge. 76 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:33,000 To run such a large website and such a large tracker technically. 77 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:41,680 Play with computers that I could never afford to play with on my own. 78 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,040 First I want to ask you... 79 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:51,000 The media often describes you as a computer genius. 80 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,920 How would you describe your competence yourself? 81 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,760 I do have a certain technical competence, yes. 82 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:03,680 What does "a certain" mean, compared to others? 83 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:11,280 I'm not sure this is the right time, place or medium to post my CV. 84 00:09:11,439 --> 00:09:15,800 But I am asking you. Please answer politely. 85 00:09:15,959 --> 00:09:21,200 I decline to answer that question. It's too much of an estimation. 86 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,239 -It's what? -Too hard to estimate. 87 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,560 -Too hard to estimate? - It's a very difficult question. 88 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,560 How did you meet Fredrik and Gottfrid? 89 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:39,360 I don't remember, but I assume it was in a chat room on the internet. 90 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,840 When was the first time you met IRL? 91 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:48,520 We don't use the expression IRL. We say AFK. But that's another issue. 92 00:09:48,680 --> 00:09:51,360 I don't remember that either. 93 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,600 Got to know each other IRL? What is that? 94 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,680 In Real Life. 95 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,520 We don't like that expression. We say AFK - Away From Keyboard. 96 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:04,119 We think that the internet is for real. 97 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,119 This is what our office looks like. 98 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,600 Is this inside the Pirate Bay? 99 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:25,680 Yes. Here are some of the people working on it. 100 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,439 -Are they working on it now? -Yes. 101 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,280 Where are they based? In Sweden? 102 00:10:32,439 --> 00:10:37,920 Let's see. USA, USA, USA or England, England. 103 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,680 Finland, I think. 104 00:11:00,439 --> 00:11:02,720 The Pirate Bay. 105 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:08,200 This is the web server. Data base and search function. 106 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,239 The trackers are over there. 107 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,760 This little piece is the tracker. It's the world's biggest tracker. 108 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,720 It coordinates 50% of the world's BitTorrent traffic. 109 00:11:21,879 --> 00:11:26,160 Not so many computers, but powerful and well-configured. 110 00:11:47,680 --> 00:11:50,479 Half the day has gone. How did it feel in court? 111 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,680 So far it's been boring. 112 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:58,080 The prosecutors' strategy is to lie as much as possible in the most boring possible way - 113 00:11:58,239 --> 00:12:02,200 -so you fall asleep in court and become physically undable to defend yourself. 114 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:08,640 Some say that you've made a lot of money by spreading illegal material. 115 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:13,520 We've probably made a lot of money, but the site costs a lot, too. 116 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:20,239 Hi. Okay, we're coming down. Bye. 117 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:25,239 -Let's eat. -Okay. Nothing vegetarian. 118 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:31,040 Aren't you working on the site we're on trial for while in court? 119 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:38,080 The pirated Depeche Mode CD I have in my laptop is even funnier. 120 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,959 He'll open in 5 minutes. 121 00:12:44,119 --> 00:12:49,160 How the hell can prosecutor Roswall mix up megabit and megabyte? 122 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:55,600 Generally speaking, for storage you use byte and when you measure speed you use bit. 123 00:13:12,560 --> 00:13:18,200 It all started with Gottfrid's site "America's Dumbest Soldiers". 124 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,520 It was a site where you could rate from 1 to 10. 125 00:13:21,680 --> 00:13:26,239 It was American soldiers who died in the first Iraq war. 126 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,360 Then you could rate how stupid they were- 127 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,879 -depending on how silly their deaths were. 128 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:39,320 Neither the American government nor anybody else appreciated the site. 129 00:13:39,479 --> 00:13:42,840 I had a spare line which I let him use for the site. 130 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,479 It was from British Telecom. 131 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:51,280 Someone at the US State Department called the head of British Telecom. 132 00:13:51,439 --> 00:13:57,280 He called the head of the operator in Sweden where I worked. 133 00:13:57,439 --> 00:14:01,640 So the US government ordered us to remove the site. 134 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,840 We fought them for a long time before we removed it. 135 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,239 We argued that it was freedom of speech and parody. 136 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:14,400 After a while we closed it down, when it became too much of a fuss. 137 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:20,600 Two months later Gottfrid needed more bandwidth for the Pirate Bay. 138 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,920 I still had that line available. We used it for the Pirate Bay. 139 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:38,479 Hearing with the defendant Peter Sunde. The prosecution may begin. 140 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:45,439 Is it true that among the Pirate Bay computers- 141 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,800 -you stored one that you owned? 142 00:14:47,959 --> 00:14:51,560 I bought a computer that I gave to the Pirate Bureau. 143 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,520 What is the Pirate Bureau? 144 00:14:54,680 --> 00:15:00,479 It's an organization that discusses the internet. 145 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:06,239 Is copyright and file sharing discussed on their website? 146 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:07,760 Probably. 147 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:12,040 And they are critical to the way copyright works today? 148 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:17,680 I'm not sure about that. People have different views. 149 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,760 What's your opinion? 150 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,160 It's hard to say. 151 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,119 I think it's problematic. 152 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,320 In what way? 153 00:15:32,479 --> 00:15:36,879 The fact that we're here today shows that there is a problem. 154 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,760 First of all, I don't believe- 155 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:55,400 -that young people today believe that copyright is wrong. 156 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,400 I think that's a myth. 157 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:04,000 This Kopimi Sect- 158 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,160 -has been really good at promoting it. 159 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,800 It's so fucking beautiful! 160 00:16:22,239 --> 00:16:25,200 We've changed it a bit. 161 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,439 So the question in the newspaper was: 162 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:33,119 "If the Pirate Bay gets convicted, won't they become martyrs?" 163 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,040 Monique said: "No, they don't have any followers." 164 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:42,000 "However, they do have a small Kopimi sect following them". 165 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,520 So sweet. That's us! 166 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,680 The Pirate Bureau came into existence in the summer of 2003. 167 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,320 It was at the same time- 168 00:16:56,479 --> 00:17:01,479 -as the record industry sued Napster in the US- 169 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:07,920 -and the medical industry sued South Africa for copying HIV-medicine. 170 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,520 The name "the Pirate Bureau" was an easy choice. 171 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:17,239 It wasn't about romanticizing pirate stuff- 172 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,320 -with eye patches and stuff. We've never liked that. 173 00:17:21,479 --> 00:17:23,640 The Anti-Piracy Bureau already existed- 174 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:29,959 -we wanted to state that we're the active part in this conflict. 175 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,439 The Anti-Piracy Bureau is the reactive part. 176 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,560 This is Henrik Pontén from the Anti-Piracy Bureau. 177 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:40,040 We've been tipped off that you're selling copies. 178 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,920 Wait, don't close the door. The police will come with a warrant. 179 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:51,680 They have a built a business based on other people committing crimes. 180 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:58,200 They have created an industry with banners and porn ads to earn revenue. 181 00:17:58,360 --> 00:17:59,720 It was very profitable. 182 00:17:59,879 --> 00:18:03,800 You're making your situation worse. 183 00:18:03,959 --> 00:18:08,040 -I must be allowed to close the door. -Come out, then. 184 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,160 If you look at studies about file sharing- 185 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,959 -they don't do it for the fellowship or to support the ideology. 186 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,520 It's because it's simple and free. 187 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,320 Then there is a small group of people who do this... 188 00:18:23,479 --> 00:18:29,280 ...for reasons they claim to be freedom of speech. 189 00:18:29,439 --> 00:18:33,439 Our policy has always been that the site is an empty page- 190 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:38,720 -that is created by the users. We don't interfere with the content. 191 00:18:38,879 --> 00:18:42,520 Freedom of speech? 192 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:49,000 I'd prefer the technological viewpoint, a contact service. 193 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,479 -For communication? -Yes. 194 00:18:54,280 --> 00:19:01,280 I don't care about the piracy ideology, copyright or politics. 195 00:19:01,439 --> 00:19:05,400 I do this because it's great fun to run a large site. 196 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,560 Describe the importance of the Pirate Bay. 197 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:13,680 It democratizes and creates great conditions for freedom of speech. 198 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,080 What has that to do with the copyrighted material? 199 00:19:17,239 --> 00:19:22,239 The Pirate Bay makes it possible for individuals to share material. 200 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,320 Even if it's copyrighted? 201 00:19:24,479 --> 00:19:28,280 That's a tricky consequence that I think we have to discuss. 202 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,479 What are you hoping for? 203 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,800 I hope we don't get a monitored, restricted internet. 204 00:19:39,959 --> 00:19:42,200 That's the biggest issue right now. 205 00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:45,520 The copyright industry is digging a grave for the internet. 206 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:50,280 They don't take into account the public benefits of a free internet. 207 00:19:50,439 --> 00:19:54,200 The problem is that old people are running the companies. 208 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:59,320 They know how you made money before and they don't want to change. 209 00:19:59,479 --> 00:20:05,760 They're like the Amish. They don't want electricity. They know how to make do without electricity. 210 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,600 Roger Wallis, please come to Court Room 9. 211 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:15,280 Do you think people who download movies will go and buy them as well? 212 00:20:15,439 --> 00:20:19,200 -If they would buy the movie? -Yes, get it legally. 213 00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:24,720 Yes, but it depends on the quality. If people want better quality. 214 00:20:24,879 --> 00:20:28,360 Or if the DVD has special features. 215 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:34,479 You have to increase the value of the products in order to sell them. 216 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,280 If you want to adjust your business model to the new world. 217 00:20:38,439 --> 00:20:42,720 Thank you. I called your institute and asked these questions- 218 00:20:42,879 --> 00:20:47,320 -because we were unable to put together your curriculum vitae. 219 00:20:47,479 --> 00:20:51,239 You've stated in court that you're a professor- 220 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:56,080 -but your institute calls you a temporary guest lecturer. 221 00:20:56,239 --> 00:20:59,920 -Do you know how to use Google? -Yes. 222 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,520 Then it's really simple to find my CV. 223 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,560 -We've moved on from that question. -I thought so too. 224 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:11,720 Let's move on. Thank you, Your Honor. 225 00:21:11,879 --> 00:21:16,479 When you were appointed, were there any competitors? 226 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,400 I thought we had moved on, Your Honor? 227 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,600 -I would like an answer. -Please answer the question. 228 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,800 I have no idea! 229 00:21:26,959 --> 00:21:31,360 I was asked to come and I went through... And we're back on this! 230 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:36,439 ...the standard selection process at the Royal Institute of Technology. 231 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,720 All my publications were submitted. 232 00:21:38,879 --> 00:21:42,800 Three professors and two international experts- 233 00:21:42,959 --> 00:21:46,959 -deemed that I was eligible for the appointment. 234 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,040 Thank you. Please just answer the questions. 235 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,720 How low can you sink? 236 00:21:56,879 --> 00:22:00,640 They're so afraid of the result of your research. 237 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:05,640 They can't attack you there, so they attack you on a personal level. 238 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:11,800 The Royal Institute of Technology. Professor Roger Wallis. 239 00:22:11,959 --> 00:22:17,720 I think it's sick to attack the academic world like this. 240 00:22:17,879 --> 00:22:22,879 It's not the first time. I've heard about professors in the US- 241 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:29,400 -who have indicated that file sharing could be positive for the industry- 242 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,040 -that have been hunted down with a whip. 243 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,600 It's sad that these American methods are coming to Sweden. 244 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:43,439 Would you like any compensation for participating today? 245 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:48,520 Please send flowers to my wife for the sleepless night. 246 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,600 The court's budget will not allow that. 247 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:59,040 It's now two or three days since the court appearance. 248 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,600 I'm starting to look through all the blogs around the world. 249 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,360 I'm looking here at "TorrentFreak": 250 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,400 "Pirate Bay witness overwhelmed with flowers." 251 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,320 And an awful lot of very kind people who wrote: 252 00:23:11,479 --> 00:23:14,840 "At last somebody from the older generation"... I'm an old man. 253 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,959 ..."seems to understand the way we think." 254 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,520 I also make the point here that as a composer... 255 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,720 A song I wrote bought our first house. 256 00:23:23,879 --> 00:23:31,080 I support copyright, but only if it encourages creativity- 257 00:23:31,239 --> 00:23:36,119 -or economic incitement or is an incentive to create. 258 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,720 Not copyright as a huge control mechanism- 259 00:23:40,879 --> 00:23:44,800 -for people who sit on large swathes of rights. 260 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,640 A police officer that worked with the Pirate Bay investigation- 261 00:23:53,800 --> 00:24:00,280 -was employed by a film studio shortly after the investigation. 262 00:24:00,439 --> 00:24:05,520 In an email, Warner Bros. states that the information in the media- 263 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,720 -about an alleged conflict of interest is pure speculation. 264 00:24:09,879 --> 00:24:15,520 He sold his apartment and bought a house. Just after he got the job. 265 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,000 I was disappointed when you didn't investigate him. 266 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,800 You're claiming stuff I don't have a clue about. 267 00:24:21,959 --> 00:24:26,879 You should gather material and submit it to the police. 268 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,520 I did, but they dropped the case. 269 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,439 Well... In that case there is nothing I can do. 270 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,680 His income that year is higher than his police salary. 271 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,119 He has declared capital gains of $120 000. 272 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,680 This fucking trial just gets more and more bizarre every day. 273 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,280 I think there's been a power cut at the Pirate Bay again. 274 00:24:59,439 --> 00:25:04,360 -Why do you use automatic fuses? -They're attached to the cable cover. 275 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:10,080 When an automatic fuse dies 5 times you have to replace it. 276 00:25:10,239 --> 00:25:15,640 My laptops break all the time so I don't have time to put stickers on. 277 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,360 I spilled gin and tonic in one. I spilled beer in another. 278 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,560 And I fell on one and smashed the screen. 279 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,239 -Do you have WIFI here? -Yes, it's called "bambuser". 280 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:33,879 -Doesn't it work? -Key... Bambuser... 281 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,959 -WTF! -Stop shouting. 282 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,520 I have abstinence! I haven't been on the internet all day. 283 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:55,280 On page 24 you have received an email- 284 00:25:55,439 --> 00:26:00,800 -that you forwarded to Gottfrid and Peter Sunde. 285 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,600 Why did you forward it? 286 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,479 I didn't. Every mail that contains DMCA- 287 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,000 -is automatically forwarded to Gottfrid and Peter. 288 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,520 I have a lot of abbreviations in my filter. 289 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,640 -Who programmed the abbreviations? -I did. 290 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,280 -Why? -Because I got a lot of spam. 291 00:26:23,439 --> 00:26:28,200 Why would you consider an email- 292 00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:31,640 -called "Copyright Claim" as spam? 293 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,840 Spam are emails that I haven't requested. 294 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:42,400 Fredrik Neij stated that as soon as he got an email- 295 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:47,160 -from someone representing copyright owners- 296 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:53,000 -it was forwarded to you from his computer. Is that correct? 297 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,160 Since no one seems capable to do what we've told them- 298 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,720 -i.e. contact the user that uploaded the material- 299 00:26:59,879 --> 00:27:04,920 -those complaints have either been ignored- 300 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:10,360 -or been replied to in more or less well-phrased ways. 301 00:27:13,439 --> 00:27:16,920 Why was it sent to you? 302 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,920 I express myself well in writing, as opposed to Fredrik. 303 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,760 But such a claim didn't result in anything but scorn and ridicule? 304 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:33,760 The first 100 times it resulted in us saying: "Contact the uploader." 305 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,920 -And the following 100 times? -Then we lost our patience. 306 00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:53,680 The Company PRQ... 307 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:59,680 -Was it a web hotel? -Yes, it had just been founded. 308 00:28:00,959 --> 00:28:06,040 Is it correct that the prosecution confiscated 195 servers- 309 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,479 -and that 11 belonged to the Pirate Bay? 310 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,119 11 or 13, I don't remember exactly. 311 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,879 This is outrageous. This is a true injustice. 312 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:22,160 They're attacking a company that has nothing to do with the Pirate Bay. 313 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:29,439 Simply because the co-founders were involved with the Pirate Bay for fun. 314 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,200 Thanks to the raid PRQ got a lot of attention. 315 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:39,520 Everybody knew that we never give any information to the police. 316 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,040 Our customer database was encrypted. 317 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:47,760 The police seized our servers, but didn't get any customer information. 318 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,879 When the Pirate Bay was shut down after the raid- 319 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,800 -you didn't have any servers left, right? 320 00:28:55,959 --> 00:28:58,560 You were back online after three days. Where did you get the servers? 321 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,840 We leased servers from a company called NFOrce in Holland. 322 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,040 It's a co-location company. 323 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,280 -How was that received? -With standing ovations. 324 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:14,000 It's a pleasure to announce that the Pirate Bay is back online! 325 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,720 In your face, Hollywood! 326 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:30,239 -Peter! -Yes? I'll be there soon! 327 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:36,360 That's how you have treated me. I get letters from your lawyers saying: 328 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,600 "Swedish law cannot protect you. US law will get you". 329 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,360 You put private detectives on us. I've had two outside my house. 330 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,600 -I know nothing about that. -But it's your responsibility. 331 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,600 It could have been the film industry. 332 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,280 -No, it was the music industry. -Ok. 333 00:29:53,439 --> 00:29:55,560 TPB isn't interested in music and movies. 334 00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:00,520 TPB is a generic medium for distribution of all types of files. 335 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:07,080 People shouldn't say that TPB only is about spreading illegal movies and music. 336 00:30:07,239 --> 00:30:11,000 Then your world is this small. It's your loss. 337 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,280 Instead we could say that file sharing is good. 338 00:30:14,439 --> 00:30:19,119 Then we could focus on ways to let artists make money. 339 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,959 -We think file sharing is good. -Sure, but you sue everyone. 340 00:30:24,119 --> 00:30:27,000 No. We don't want to prosecute anyone. 341 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:32,439 We just want people in Sweden to start respecting copyright laws. 342 00:30:54,119 --> 00:30:59,800 What was the purpose of the Pirate Bay in your opinion? 343 00:30:59,959 --> 00:31:04,239 We never spoke about purposes. 344 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,760 If it was about reforming laws or if it was about- 345 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:14,720 -hatred against some Americans. I don't know their purpose. 346 00:31:14,879 --> 00:31:20,239 But for Fredrik, and it was Fredrik I was dealing with- 347 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:25,640 -the purpose was to make it a big site. The biggest site in the world. 348 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,840 From my point of view I liked the idea of the world's biggest site. 349 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:36,479 -How is the Pirate Bay financed? -How the website is financed? 350 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,479 We have ads on the site that generate money. 351 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,479 A guy called Lundström helped you financially, didn't he? 352 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,280 Yes, we we're sponsored by a company called Rix Telecom. 353 00:31:49,439 --> 00:31:53,720 -What was his purpose? -Free advertising for his company. 354 00:31:53,879 --> 00:31:56,439 Carl Lundström is an interesting guy. 355 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,600 He's behind many right-wing organizations. 356 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,959 Carl Lundström has apparently given money to... 357 00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:09,320 Answer the question! Did he represent these organizations? 358 00:32:09,479 --> 00:32:13,479 It really bugs me- 359 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,720 -that everybody looks at us as right-wing extremists. 360 00:32:17,879 --> 00:32:22,720 It makes me really hurt and angry. My brother is a convicted anarchist. 361 00:32:22,879 --> 00:32:28,920 He's been in court, defending his opinions. 362 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,119 We've both been on a neo-Nazi organization's hit list. 363 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:37,000 It feels strange to be accused of founding that neo-Nazi organization. 364 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,400 It's really hard. 365 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,239 I can only stand behind my own politics. 366 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,920 When you have some influence and people listen to you- 367 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:54,280 -you should use that position to do something good. 368 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,600 When did you become the Pirate Bay's spokesperson? 369 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:07,200 Well, it's not an official title, but a function that has been given to me. 370 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,560 Nobody wanted to do that part, but it was important to communicate- 371 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,280 -that the Pirate Bay was doing something important. 372 00:33:15,439 --> 00:33:19,360 Since nobody else wanted to, I started doing it. 373 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:26,560 What was Peter Sunde's role during that time? 374 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:32,080 He showed up when we needed a public face. 375 00:33:32,239 --> 00:33:37,320 Since neither I nor Fredrik are suited in furnished rooms. 376 00:33:37,479 --> 00:33:40,959 So he had nothing to do with running the site. 377 00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:44,080 -Or any design? -No. 378 00:33:44,239 --> 00:33:46,400 -Funding? -No. 379 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,680 It's AIM. You told me it was MSN. 380 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,400 What's the fucking difference? 381 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,720 They're two different networks. It's like IRCnet and EFnet. 382 00:34:00,879 --> 00:34:04,320 -Come on! -It was the Museum of Modern Art... 383 00:34:04,479 --> 00:34:07,160 You're so loud! You give me a headache. 384 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:13,280 -I'm half deaf, of course I shout. -You're making me deaf. 385 00:34:13,439 --> 00:34:16,200 He wants to spread his misery. 386 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:22,160 -Why can't you hear anything? -Sex, drugs and industry! 387 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,640 Sex? 388 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,119 I've heard your sex stories. 389 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,400 How much does a banner cost? 390 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,680 You are asking me about 5-year-old figures again. 391 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:45,160 If you give me a day I can probably find some examples. 392 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,879 But I can't give you any exact figures. 393 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:53,920 Does $500 per week sound like a reasonable amount? 394 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,280 That sounds about right. It's within the right range at least. 395 00:34:57,439 --> 00:35:00,119 Within the right range, you say. 396 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:06,040 Was there an agreement about how the ad revenue was to be divided? 397 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:11,040 -I have no idea. -You don't. Fine. 398 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,800 -I'm so fucking tired. -This will be your life for 5 years. 399 00:35:15,959 --> 00:35:18,920 Are you Kafka or what? 400 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,760 It feels like "The Trial" all over again. 401 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,040 I might wake up as Gregor Samsa and can't go to work- 402 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,959 -because I've turned into a beetle. 403 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,160 When do you go back to Cambodia? 404 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,239 -As soon as this shit is over. -Quiet. It's a secret. 405 00:35:50,959 --> 00:35:55,200 What are your thoughts in general about the case? 406 00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:01,239 It will be nice when it's over. Tomorrow it's just half the day. 407 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,239 And after the closing arguments we're finished. 408 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,200 How much money are they looking for? 409 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,400 They want around 20 million Euro in damages. 410 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:16,479 But good luck finding that money. I don't have that kind of money. 411 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:21,200 If they knew that our entire office is a chat room on IRC- 412 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,400 -they wouldn't believe it. 413 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:30,119 And they don't because they've been asking questions about companies. 414 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,280 Yeah, we tried to get organized, but we failed every single time. 415 00:36:34,439 --> 00:36:40,560 I don't think they can grasp the idea of an organization without a boss. 416 00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:45,680 People have no idea how small we are. We're just a couple of guys in a chat room. 417 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:12,320 I've argued that the yearly profit is at least $170,000. 418 00:37:12,479 --> 00:37:15,439 And that's the minimum. 419 00:37:16,479 --> 00:37:19,640 Gottfrid Svartholm Warg stated- 420 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:26,239 -that the price for an ad on TPB was $500 per week. 421 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,479 The report from the Forensic Laboratory- 422 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:36,040 -states that at the time of the raid- 423 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,320 - there were 64 unique ads. 424 00:37:40,479 --> 00:37:46,160 A rough estimate... 425 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:51,520 $500 times 64- 426 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,439 - gives us $34 000 per week. 427 00:37:55,600 --> 00:38:02,119 That amount times 52 weeks, i.e. weeks per year- 428 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:08,840 -makes a yearly revenue of $ 1700 000. 429 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,760 Thus The Pirate Bay isn't idealistic. 430 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,879 It's pure commercial business. 431 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,280 Here we go. 4 times 52. 432 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,959 $110 000. That's a massive sum. We never got that kind of money back then. 433 00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:41,840 If you calculate with the right number of ads - 4 instead of 64- 434 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,160 -you get a much more realistic figure. 435 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,800 But he has miscalculated so many things. 436 00:38:46,959 --> 00:38:52,560 Did Roswall mean 64 different ads, or 4 ads times a bunch of pages? 437 00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:56,600 -Yes. -What the hell! Is he insane? 438 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,720 He's right behind you. 439 00:39:02,479 --> 00:39:05,760 We're thinking of doing a Bambuser press conference. 440 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,560 Hell no!! No! No! They keep calling us organized. 441 00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:12,680 They don't understand what a joke that is. 442 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:17,560 It's disorganized crime. 443 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,600 You mean for all of you? I think you are going to get convicted. 444 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,640 Take a picture of Monique. It's her copyright. 445 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,959 -I'm leaving. -Bye bye. 446 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:41,720 Do you need a hand? 447 00:39:41,879 --> 00:39:45,000 This is the only help you'll ever get from me. 448 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,400 -That's so kind. -I am kind. 449 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,560 And I still have my soul, too. 450 00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:54,680 Here's Fredrik, let's get out of here. 451 00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:03,600 Let's calculate how much money we have earned. 452 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,160 Let's start with an exponential function. 453 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,879 -You can add times 64. -Right. 454 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,600 And for N we choose a random number. 455 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,680 Between 10 and 5 200. Do you write code in Swedish? 456 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:26,280 Now take the square root to see what Monique's soul costs. 457 00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:30,560 The answer? 458 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,520 Do it mathematically correct. 459 00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:39,239 Come on, not Pi. 460 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:47,720 He's mad. Go check that it's correct. 461 00:40:47,879 --> 00:40:51,080 Okay. I'll give you some cred. 462 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,760 It's in my muscle memory. I can't remember it writing with a pen. 463 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,119 I have to emulate a keyboard. 464 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,479 So what are you doing at 11.00 on the 17th of April? 465 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,800 Queuing outside the court? 466 00:41:03,959 --> 00:41:09,239 -11 am means 5 pm local time. -I was thinking the same thing. 467 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,040 Gottfrid, can you sit over here? 468 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,920 I'm not taking part in any fucking press conference. I'm sick of it! 469 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:23,360 -It's in English. -I'm so fucking tired of cameras. 470 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,160 -And fucking bullshit! -Sit here anyway. It's the last time. 471 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,040 Nein. 472 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,640 Hi everybody. 473 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,280 I'm here and together with me I have some of the guys from TPB. 474 00:41:39,439 --> 00:41:43,239 Take your time and ask some questions to the guys- 475 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,720 -and see what they have to say. 476 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,040 -I didn't know we were that boring. -You are that boring. 477 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:56,400 Because you're not part of this. Film him! 478 00:41:57,439 --> 00:41:58,959 Anakata! 479 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,360 Today the court will decide if the men behind the Pirate Bay- 480 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,119 -are guilty of copyright infringement. 481 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:22,400 Follow the verdict live on svt.se from 11.00. 482 00:42:24,879 --> 00:42:30,600 No, but... Sure, but don't worry. 483 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:35,640 Because I'm not worried myself. But I'll talk to you later. Bye. 484 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,600 Dad was more nervous than I am. 485 00:42:46,439 --> 00:42:51,800 The verdict is in for the Pirate Bay trial. It's 11 o'clock. 486 00:42:51,959 --> 00:42:56,879 All four defendants are sentenced to one year in prison. 487 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:01,879 The offense is called "assisting copyright infringement". 488 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:07,439 - So one year imprisonment... -This is so insane! 489 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,879 This must be a joke. 490 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,640 Take it easy, mom. Nothing will happen. 491 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,360 This is going to take 5 years. Take it easy. 492 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:35,040 The District Court is ruled by politicians. We call it the Dice Court. 493 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,479 Just stay calm. 494 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:51,200 But I can't talk right now. I have to watch the press conference. 495 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,040 Okay. Take care. 496 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,680 The District Court has announced the verdict in the Pirate Bay trial. 497 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:05,840 We have estimated the damages to approximately $4,5 million. 498 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,280 Fuck you. He's going to get a good job in Hollywood after this. 499 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,439 This is so insane! 500 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,479 The hottest set up ever. 501 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,400 I don't have time right now, I have to decline. 502 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:36,320 No, I'm the only one in Sweden. The others are in the desert or the jungle. 503 00:44:36,479 --> 00:44:40,680 No, they are not going to send us to jail whatsoever. 504 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,840 The way it works in Sweden is that they can't... 505 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,920 ...do anything about the case before we can't appeal anymore. 506 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:58,160 -What are we going to call this? -LOL? 507 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,720 For the lulz. 508 00:45:00,879 --> 00:45:04,239 If this was a movie this is where the heroes- 509 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,959 -encounter their first problem. 510 00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:10,879 Karate Kid got bullied in the beginning and got beaten up. 511 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,959 And we've just been beaten up. 512 00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:20,000 Thanks, Hollywood, for teaching us that the good guys win in the end. 513 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:25,400 In total they wanted around 100 million Swedish crowns, right? 514 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,520 And they got 30 million. 515 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:34,000 But they could have gotten 1 billion, it doesn't matter because... 516 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,800 We can't pay and we wouldn't pay. 517 00:45:37,959 --> 00:45:41,800 This verdict makes me upset to the bone. 518 00:45:41,959 --> 00:45:46,560 There is no chance in hell this verdict will hold in an appeal. 519 00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:52,640 I will cross the creek, the stream and the Atlantic for a redress. 520 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,840 It means a lot to have taken a stand. 521 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:02,160 It's important to re-establish Sweden as a state governed by law. 522 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,040 The judge in the Pirate Bay trial is accused of bias. 523 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,600 People are demanding a retrial. 524 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:17,280 Last night I learned about the news that blew up today. 525 00:46:17,439 --> 00:46:19,800 The judge in the Pirate Bay trial- 526 00:46:19,959 --> 00:46:26,000 -is a member of organizations that are working with copyright issues. 527 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,479 Organizations that the attorneys from the plaintiff's are part of. 528 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:35,080 I was horrified and shocked to learn about this. 529 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,720 -Why didn't you inform the court? -Good question. I didn't. 530 00:46:39,879 --> 00:46:42,600 Yes, I know how he thought. 531 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,560 "My friends will be happy if I rule in their favor." 532 00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:49,800 It's ridiculous. I didn't think the legal system was that bad. 533 00:46:49,959 --> 00:46:54,840 -Was it a correct decision? -That's for others to decide. 534 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:18,320 It's Tomas, the judge. He's the judge in the District Court. 535 00:47:18,479 --> 00:47:23,640 He's a member of the Swedish Association for Copyright. 536 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,879 That's the whole point. 537 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:31,800 He sits in the board for the Swedish Association for Industrial Rights. 538 00:47:31,959 --> 00:47:37,720 These two organizations have a common publication, NIR. 539 00:47:37,879 --> 00:47:42,680 And all the lawyers that assist the prosecution: 540 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,879 Peter Danowsky, Henrik Pontén and Monique Wadsted. 541 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,840 They're all members of the same organization. 542 00:47:53,920 --> 00:48:00,239 So he looks very mixed up in these people's world. 543 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,600 From a graphical point of view it's very obvious. 544 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,760 I can't say if he was biased- 545 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:11,119 -but just the fact that he withheld this information- 546 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,640 -makes him unsuitable as a judge in this case. 547 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,720 The verdict is questionable, since he might be perceived as being biased. 548 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:52,439 -Here's my pirate copy. -I have a parasite. 549 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,640 -Is this you? Fredrik? -Yes. 550 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:34,800 -What's your job? - IT. Internet. 551 00:49:34,959 --> 00:49:39,560 Because of our tradition and the regulations of the village- 552 00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:43,080 -you have to pay for the engagement. 553 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:48,360 How much would you like to pay for the engagement? 554 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:54,000 $6,000? 555 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:04,040 If you leave her you have to pay the bride dowry times two. 556 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,840 That means $12,000. Agreed? 557 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,600 Please write your name and sign it. 558 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,239 Do you like it? Good. 559 00:50:28,439 --> 00:50:32,560 -Yummy! Yummy! -Hello! 560 00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:36,760 If it didn't cost me $12,000 I would divorce you. 561 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:51,080 It's always this way with the Pirate Bay. Chaos and cheating. 562 00:50:52,439 --> 00:50:56,320 Last Monday a verdict came from the Stockholm District court- 563 00:50:56,479 --> 00:50:58,000 -where Judge Norström is chairman. 564 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:05,080 Black Internet, the ISP for Pirate Bay's ISP must quit- 565 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,400 -and if they continue to give access to the Pirate Bay- 566 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,879 -they will be fined $75 000 per day. 567 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:16,400 Then all hell broke loose. 568 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,200 So they're trying legal tricks and we're trying technical tricks. 569 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:29,200 It's like a constant tactical game with different weapons. 570 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,680 When we realized that the Pirate Bay was down- 571 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,600 -we looked around, because we always have backups. 572 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:47,680 Then I realized that the Pirate Party had registered their own ISP. 573 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,640 The Pirate Party works for reformed copyright laws, an open internet- 574 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,400 -and free access to culture. 575 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,959 I realized that if we're hosted by the Pirate Party- 576 00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:06,239 -it means that if someone closes them down, they're closing down the party. 577 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:11,119 That means closing down a party that represents Sweden in the EU. 578 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,600 That would be political censorship on the highest level. 579 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,439 If you're hosted by the Pirate Party you get political protection. 580 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,080 You could say that you get diplomatic immunity. 581 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,400 After days of speculation "Rapport" can now reveal that the Pirate Party- 582 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:37,360 -takes over the responsibility for the security of WikiLeaks' servers. 583 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:42,479 WikiLeaks or the Pirate Party copied what they had done with TPB. 584 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,840 Giving WikiLeaks protection by a political party- 585 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,920 -by sharing the same internet connection. 586 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:55,600 Every leak on WikiLeaks has been released on TPB since there is no censorship there. 587 00:52:57,959 --> 00:53:01,400 Gottfrid is good at tech stuff and encryption- 588 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,600 -and he's worked on many important projects. 589 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:08,360 Like "Collateral Murder" that made WikiLeaks famous. 590 00:53:15,479 --> 00:53:16,560 "Look at those dead bastards" 591 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,320 Julian has a lot of respect for Gottfrid. 592 00:53:27,479 --> 00:53:31,959 I remember when Gottfrid said: "There's a new customer, WikiLeaks." 593 00:53:32,119 --> 00:53:35,360 "They need help because they're under attack." 594 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:40,439 The first time I got in contact was when we had to pay a bill. 595 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,560 Because no one, and that was a constant problem... 596 00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:46,360 No one remembered the stupid customer number. 597 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,000 And no one wanted to say anything on the phone. 598 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:55,760 In 2008 I flew to Sweden to pay the bill in cash. 599 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,959 Gottfrid always said he didn't want money from WikiLeaks. 600 00:53:59,119 --> 00:54:04,040 I flew there and paid for one year and a bit in advance. 601 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:08,040 Julian was with me. He flew in as well. 602 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:13,000 And we arranged this meeting with Gottfrid to hand over the money. 603 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,920 And it was one of the weirdest incidents in my life. 604 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:22,920 He came to the hotel and he had someone waiting outside in a car. 605 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:30,680 And they had an agreement that Gottfrid would be near a window. 606 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,959 So he stood there in this lobby. 607 00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:39,920 With his long hair, looking completely... 608 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:44,160 -Strange! Fucked up. -And he behaved really strange. 609 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:50,680 And every 30 seconds he turned to see if the guy in the car was there. 610 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:55,000 And Julian and I were standing there and we basically thought- 611 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,239 -that we would go hang out or something. 612 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:04,239 So we asked him if he wanted to come up to the room. 613 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:09,760 And he was like: "No, no, I can't." He was turning around. 614 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,640 Never heard that before. 615 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,959 And then handing over some cash and the guy jumped in the car- 616 00:55:16,119 --> 00:55:20,119 -and they drove off and we felt like... 617 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,720 That was meeting PRQ for us. 618 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,840 A warm welcome to Peter Sunde. 619 00:55:30,879 --> 00:55:35,800 First question: Are you a killer that ruined the whole industry? 620 00:55:35,959 --> 00:55:39,800 I would love to take credit for it but I can't. Sorry. They did it themselves. 621 00:55:39,959 --> 00:55:44,080 -There is a law case now with you. -Just one? 622 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,479 I don't know how many but some discussions going around. 623 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,720 You had a new idea: Flattr. 624 00:55:50,879 --> 00:55:55,239 It comes from the discussions we had during the Pirate Bay. 625 00:55:55,400 --> 00:56:00,800 There were two sides. One side said there is no problem with downloading. 626 00:56:00,959 --> 00:56:05,119 The other side said they're not making any money from the internet. 627 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:11,360 -And there was nothing happening. -Can you explain how Flattr works? 628 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:16,560 You as a user sign up and you put money into an account. 629 00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:19,239 You decide how much you want to spend per month. 630 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:24,680 Then you find Flattr buttons. They look like the Facebook Like buttons. 631 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,600 If you click it we remember it until the end of the month. 632 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,360 At the end of the month we count your clicks- 633 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,879 -and we share your money equally amongst them. 634 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:38,720 -Where is the money going? -It's going to the creators. 635 00:56:38,879 --> 00:56:40,600 That's the whole concept. 636 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:54,680 The trial in the Court of Appeal against the Pirate Bay began today. 637 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,640 Let's shake hands today again. 638 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:02,160 -It's a sick team, right? -I'm soaking wet. 639 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,040 To rent a car costs $400 per week. 640 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,920 I bought that one for $600. I'll use it for 6 weeks. 641 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:14,479 -Is it legal? -Sure. I've even paid the taxes. 642 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:21,640 I don't really care about parking tickets - I have a $7 million debt. 643 00:57:25,239 --> 00:57:29,920 The Court of Appeal, please. 644 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,119 -Is Gottfrid coming? -I highly doubt that. 645 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,239 -Unless he teleports himself. -Okay. 646 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:45,000 He wrote this morning that he's hospitalized with a parasite infection in Cambodia. 647 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,360 So yes, it's highly unlikely that he'll come. 648 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:58,600 -Do you have any other trials? -The civil cases. 649 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:02,360 -The penalty fine stuff. -How many are they? 650 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:06,680 One in Italy, one in Holland... 651 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:11,760 One in Denmark that we're not summoned to, and one in Norway. 652 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,600 Kuwait, Ireland. Anything else? 653 00:58:27,439 --> 00:58:29,479 What is the most important? 654 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:35,800 I believe it's very important to look at how our society ought to be. 655 00:58:35,959 --> 00:58:39,439 Not just rule so that big companies can make a bigger profit. 656 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,600 How does this feel? 8 days to go. 657 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,520 It's boring that we're just watching video. 658 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:51,560 You wanted to speak for yourself but weren't allowed to, right? 659 00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,840 I think the new court system is really bad. 660 00:58:55,000 --> 00:59:00,000 You can't introduce new material. We don't even need to be in court. 661 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:04,439 They could just take the old material and rule from that. 662 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,400 Hey, thanks for coming! 663 00:59:08,479 --> 00:59:11,720 -How are you? -I'm really sick. 664 00:59:11,879 --> 00:59:16,160 Then why the hell are you shaking my hand? 665 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:20,959 -He's also sick. -What's wrong with you? 666 00:59:21,119 --> 00:59:25,920 I have a cold and an eye infection. I didn't sleep at all last night. 667 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,959 I just got an SMS from Gottfrid's mother. 668 00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:36,720 She wrote that he is still in Cambodia. 669 00:59:36,879 --> 00:59:42,840 She said that he is really ill. 670 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,560 He's had problems before as well. 671 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:52,320 When you look at him, health isn't the first thing you think of. 672 00:59:55,760 --> 01:00:00,760 -What are you working with today? -I run websites. 673 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,920 In Cambodia or Thailand? 674 01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:09,239 With the internet you can work anywhere as long as you have Internet access. 675 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,160 State prosecutor Roswall accused the defendants of contempt- 676 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:21,320 -since they have continued to run the site after the verdict. 677 01:00:21,479 --> 01:00:25,000 He wants the one year imprisonment for all four to be affirmed. 678 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:12,119 The tunnel computer is located in Pionen with the Pirate Party. 679 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:19,400 Pionen is a show-off in Apple style. 680 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:26,760 The tunnel computer is the entrance from the internet to the Pirate Bay. 681 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,360 Then everything happens in the background somewhere. 682 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:35,160 On the real servers, that are hidden. 683 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,000 Right now we're on our way to the real mountain. 684 01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,200 That's an expensive table. 685 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:43,200 -6 cores? -12 cores. 686 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,760 4 CPU's with 12 cores. 687 01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:50,959 Here. The Pirate Bay. And that's all. 688 01:02:51,119 --> 01:02:53,200 We run an efficient ship. 689 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,520 Where are the people who run the Pirate Bay based now? 690 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:11,720 I don't know. Ask the Pirate Party, they are hosting the bandwidth. 691 01:03:11,879 --> 01:03:20,920 But it has changed owners after we passed it on, too. Once or twice. 692 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:25,400 We miss the support from the Pirate Party in the District Court. 693 01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:29,080 -With buses and stuff. -The buses were the Pirate Bureau. 694 01:03:29,239 --> 01:03:34,119 Was it the Pirate Bureau? With trumpets and flags and stuff. 695 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,600 It feels like they have forgotten about us. 696 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,879 The pirate movement's idea to fight for free file sharing- 697 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,760 -just isn't accepted anymore. 698 01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:55,320 It was just a little fad. I never thought it would survive. 699 01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,320 -I don't want them. -You don't have to sign them. 700 01:04:05,479 --> 01:04:08,239 But by law you have been served. 701 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:12,439 What does that mean? 702 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:16,959 -I can't force you to sign. -No, you can't. 703 01:04:17,119 --> 01:04:20,080 -But you've been served. -Who are you? 704 01:04:20,239 --> 01:04:23,879 -I'm the subpoena server. -Can I see your ID? 705 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:36,119 Can I see the last 4 digits, please? 706 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:40,640 -You should quit smoking. -Do I smell? 707 01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:46,200 This is stressful for me, too. 708 01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,879 -Does it feel bad to do this? -Kind of. 709 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,959 -But they pay you well? -No. 710 01:04:51,119 --> 01:04:52,840 -Why do you do it? -It's my job. 711 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,800 Do you have kids? Then I understand, but get a better job. 712 01:04:56,879 --> 01:04:58,560 I've been thinking about that. 713 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:05,160 -Is this from Danowsky? -I don't know what it's about. 714 01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,439 -So you don't know where it's from? -Holland. 715 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:13,000 -Okay. Good luck. -Thanks. Likewise. 716 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:19,200 -He's got a great job. -I feel sorry for him. 717 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,439 I don't. He's like a meter maid. 718 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,320 Did you see the debate on TV? 719 01:05:26,479 --> 01:05:32,439 A young girl said: "This is not about young people wanting to commit crimes." 720 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,800 "They just have a different consumption pattern." 721 01:05:35,959 --> 01:05:41,200 "They just want to consume movies and records that way." 722 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:46,680 "It's horrible to hunt them. The market must adjust instead." 723 01:06:08,119 --> 01:06:11,760 Life is cooler than the internet. 724 01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:18,800 That's probably a really radical opinion around here. 725 01:06:18,959 --> 01:06:23,439 After the cold war they had to invent enemies- 726 01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:27,600 -that you couldn't even kill. 727 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:31,320 Terror, piracy and drugs. 728 01:06:31,479 --> 01:06:35,080 It's obvious that PRQ has had customers- 729 01:06:35,239 --> 01:06:40,640 -that some say are connected to terror, piracy and drugs. 730 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,520 That can't be denied. 731 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:47,879 I guess all three of them at the same time for one single customer. 732 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,640 You mean Gottfrid Svartholm Warg! 733 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,800 He's a pirate and a junkie. 734 01:06:54,959 --> 01:06:59,040 And when you talk to him you get a little scared. 735 01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,439 You could say he's a Taliban. 736 01:07:11,439 --> 01:07:18,760 I'm back from Cambodia. I've been there for a month. 737 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:23,200 I've been really worried about Gottfrid's health. 738 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,920 I don't want to talk too much about... 739 01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:32,000 He hasn't been using stuff constantly. 740 01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:36,280 It's been every now and then. When he has a deadline. 741 01:07:36,439 --> 01:07:40,840 He gets stressed by his work when something has to be done. 742 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,479 So then he does a whole lot of drugs. 743 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:48,760 I just couldn't stand by and watch. 744 01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:53,160 I've seen friends struggle with drugs before. 745 01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:59,720 And it's... What can I say? It's tough. 746 01:07:59,879 --> 01:08:05,000 It's not something you want to see a friend go through. 747 01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,600 -What are we gonna do? -Crush racism! 748 01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,439 -When? -Now! 749 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,239 -When, when, when? -Now, now, now! 750 01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,239 -What are we gonna do? -Crush racism! 751 01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:43,080 Brokep/Peter is a fucking vegetarian leftist bitch ass bastard. 752 01:08:43,239 --> 01:08:45,879 But he's got balls because he's in the Pirate Bay? 753 01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,439 -He's giving all the interviews. -He's still a bitch. 754 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:56,959 He does it because of ideological pussy-inflicted instincts. 755 01:08:57,119 --> 01:09:01,920 He needs to look himself in the ass and take his own life in his hands. 756 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:08,119 If he's had a beer or two, he becomes the most annoying person on earth. 757 01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:11,439 The problem is he takes a couple of beers at least everyday. 758 01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,959 Isn't there some connection to right-wing parties in Sweden? 759 01:09:16,119 --> 01:09:19,840 Carl Lundström, one of the co-defendants- 760 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:24,360 -was a right-wing extremist before. 761 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,680 He founded a lot of crap. But in the end- 762 01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:32,280 -he married a Jewish girl. He has four kids. 763 01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:39,439 To call him a right-wing extremist was correct 10-20 years ago. 764 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,080 Now I wouldn't say that. 765 01:09:42,239 --> 01:09:46,680 If Carl Lundström is xenophobic then so am I. 766 01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:52,360 Every time I've been beaten or robbed, it's been by immigrants. 767 01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:56,920 And I don't mean seventh-generation Finnish immigrants. 768 01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:58,800 I mean these dirty fucking immigrants. 769 01:09:58,959 --> 01:10:04,920 What can I say. He's stupid when it comes to things like that. 770 01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:10,320 He has never thought for himself. He just says what his parents say. 771 01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:14,320 He's an alcoholic racist asshole. 772 01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,280 -But I still love him. -And you know what? 773 01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:23,040 All the emails in the Pirate Bay trial comes from Anakata. 774 01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:27,160 Anakata the don't-know-how to-fucking-encrypt-his-computer! 775 01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:34,160 Even Peter and I encrypted our emails. But Gottfrid didn't! 776 01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:38,720 Gottfrid is the stupidest person in the entire history of IT. 777 01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,959 Yeah, the Pirate Bay is really tight! 778 01:10:50,879 --> 01:10:53,760 I have no batteries left. 779 01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,720 I'm surprised there are no cameras. 780 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,400 -Yes, today is the last day. -Finally! I'm going home. 781 01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:19,320 -You can throw them away. -You've been served anyway. 782 01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,280 Is this gonna come on YouTube? 783 01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,280 -You can throw them away. -You do it. 784 01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:29,800 -You can't force me to take them. -You've been served. 785 01:11:29,959 --> 01:11:33,280 It was you who dropped the papers. 786 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,959 Come on! 787 01:11:54,119 --> 01:11:57,280 I want to sleep. 788 01:12:09,959 --> 01:12:12,040 Sabaidee! 789 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:20,280 When I get acquitted tomorrow I'm going to sue them for millions. 790 01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,520 Billions! At least! 791 01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:29,119 We can't be worse than they are with fantasy numbers. I landed in Sweden on Saturday. 792 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:35,360 I'm helping out with the new Leaks project's servers in the server hall. 793 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:40,280 Everybody has left WikiLeaks except for Julian and maybe Anakata. 794 01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:43,080 Because he's like in love with Julian. 795 01:12:43,239 --> 01:12:47,920 Fuck! Blink if you're gonna turn, you fucking anus! 796 01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,879 Goddamnit! 797 01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,000 -How are you? -I'm fine. 798 01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,080 Nice to see you again. You're good? 799 01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:19,800 Do these people know what's happening in your life today? 800 01:13:19,959 --> 01:13:21,959 -No. -Not even your wife? 801 01:13:22,119 --> 01:13:24,280 Yes. 802 01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:46,320 I don't know. For Fredrik it's easy. He can just avoid going home. 803 01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:50,200 What do you mean? I don't have any plans on going home. 804 01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,119 I really don't know. I don't have a clue. 805 01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,959 I'm hesitating. But I won't accept a conviction. 806 01:13:57,119 --> 01:14:02,280 I can serve a prison sentence. But why do it if I don't have to? 807 01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:05,520 There's really no reason for you to do that. 808 01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:09,439 Look around. Why shouldn't I stay here for 5 years? 809 01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,959 You can't go to jail for something you haven't done. 810 01:14:16,119 --> 01:14:19,400 Political exile is what it's about. 811 01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,800 I don't want to become a martyr. 812 01:14:25,959 --> 01:14:28,760 But I don't think I'll be convicted. 813 01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:34,160 Knock on wood... But we'll see. 814 01:14:35,879 --> 01:14:37,760 Cheers! 815 01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,439 Beer man! 816 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,879 Are you going to get drunk from happiness or sadness? 817 01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,080 Can I tell you in 12 minutes? 818 01:15:13,119 --> 01:15:17,879 Hey! The internet just synched up! I think it's an omen. 819 01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:19,840 Stop lagging! 820 01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:24,720 "If TPB founders are acquitted, it's a victory for internet freedom." 821 01:15:24,879 --> 01:15:27,560 Check out my eye infection! 822 01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:32,680 "The pirate Gottfrid Svartholm Warg handed in a medical statement." 823 01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,840 Gottfrid Svartholm was "sick". 824 01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:49,320 "...was shortened but the damages were raised." We're convicted. 825 01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:53,479 We're convicted. Domstol.se. It's Spam. 826 01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:58,879 Copy the link. The link underneath! 827 01:16:03,959 --> 01:16:08,600 "The Court of Appeal considers the defendants' contribution proven." 828 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,360 "Fredrik Neij is sentenced to 10 months, Peter Sunde 8"- 829 01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,720 -"and Carl Lundström to 4 months." 830 01:16:14,879 --> 01:16:17,360 -What about Gottfrid? -He's not in the case. 831 01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:18,680 Right. 832 01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:25,200 The damages went up from $4,5 million to $6,6 million. 833 01:16:28,239 --> 01:16:31,640 Well... We lost. Fucking idiots. 834 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,160 I'm calling my mom. 835 01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:41,239 Hi. I just wanted to say that they gave us a shorter sentence. 836 01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:46,879 But we're appealing. 8 months instead of one year. 837 01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:51,760 I just wanted to call and tell you that. So don't be worried. 838 01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:55,920 I have 59 pages I have to read. 839 01:16:57,239 --> 01:16:59,760 Okay, great. Take care. 840 01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,920 Fucking idiots. 841 01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:17,520 -The internet just died! -Goddamnit! Yes, it did. 842 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,680 Fucking Windows crap! 843 01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,600 The statute of limitation is 5 years. 844 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,200 They can't issue an international warrant of arrest. 845 01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:30,360 I can sit here and jerk off for 5 years. And I will. 846 01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:32,879 Are you gonna masturbate for 5 years? In one go? 847 01:17:32,959 --> 01:17:34,720 I'll do it on and off. 848 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:39,239 This means that the internet is criminalized. 849 01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:44,119 They label the internet as a place where crimes are committed. "Close it down." 850 01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:50,360 We're not even on BBC or CNN yet! That irritates me! Come on! 851 01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:56,520 I guess we have to live with the fact that we're not important anymore. 852 01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:07,080 -The Bay! -When does the internet come back? 853 01:18:07,239 --> 01:18:11,479 Maybe in 2 hours. If we're lucky. 854 01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:18,119 Ladies and gentlemen, dear friends. 855 01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:22,439 We are meeting today to discuss- 856 01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:26,920 -one of the hot issues right now in the European Parliament. 857 01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:31,720 Thank you very much for having me. It's very brave to invite me here. 858 01:19:31,879 --> 01:19:36,280 I've been a pain in the ass for the copyright industry for a long time. 859 01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:40,520 I'm one of the spokespersons for the Pirate Bay. 860 01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:45,720 TPB is the largest file sharing system in the world. 861 01:19:45,879 --> 01:19:51,400 It's ten times larger than Napster at it's peak, and it's still growing.